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Originally Posted by RedEvo
That's an impressive list but I don't believe a society can be turned into a list.
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A society? - no... Blunders? - Yes, and very easily. (see above
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You see, the problem is you said "I don't believe a society can be turned into a list"... This is not really an answer, as it doesn't really say anything but allow room to ignore or avoid answering the points made.
I wouldn't say that makes you an apoligist, but damn it sounds like a man with his eyes and ears firmly shut. (no offense meant!)
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Each of the points you mentioned may or may not be true and behind each item will be complex story or gross incompetence or both.
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If that doesn't sound like a line meant to make room for an excuse I don't know what else it is!
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I'm not an apologist for the government, whatever their colour. My point is we have to take responsibility for our own society. We can't turn the other cheek and simply blame the government.
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We do take responsibility. If you or I were to get in debt, we would be made bankrupt. Its much like the title of this thread, because its got to the point where ok, fair enough - the country isn't really "bankrupt", but Labours morals are well and truly bankrupt. The difference is they're tried in the court of public opinion.
What's happening here is us people are starting to take responsibility for our own society, and we are starting with the rot which is Labour.
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I've seen governments of all political persuasions make a complete mess of the country. Labour have done it, the Tories have done it and it will always be thus. Running a country is a complex business 
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But on one hand you're saying we need to take responsibility, on the other you say it will always be a mess. Which implies its not worth trying, or maybe that we should just put-up with this lot?
If I've noticed anything in this thread, its that on the fence isn't the best place to sit my friend. lol
