Upside down thinking

[RedEvo]

Air travel has become cheaper and people fly more as a result. But what do we do to people who fly a lot and contribute to global warming? Give them free tokens to fly even more, this time for free.

So, are air miles flying in the face of a carbon conscious society?



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[IP2]

I still personally feel the airline industry has been unfairly singled out in the whole debate.

But with jet fuel having risen from $600 in May to $1400 dollars per tonne now, cheap air travel has probably had it's day for the foreseeable future, economics may become unexpected saviour of reducing those air miles!

[Alvin]

Cheap air fares are massively subsidised by the state.

Unfair competition.No duty on fuel,cost to transport a single person costs several times that of rail travel.

Planes should only be used for long haul flights,waste of resources using them for internal travel.

return flight to barcelona £140 return rail travel London to glasgow £252,00

coach travel return London to glasgow £40

Is Crazy.

Alvin

[getnoticed]

Air Travel accounts for less than 2% of the worlds carbon emissions
I don't see what all the fuss is about with Air Travel as there are far worse contributors than the aviation industry.

PS. Alvin, you are paying waaaaay too much for your travel!

[IP2]

Air Travel accounts for less than 2% of the worlds carbon emissions
I don't see what all the fuss is about with Air Travel as there are far worse contributors than the aviation industry.

Totally agree with you.

PS. Alvin, you are paying waaaaay too much for your travel!

Yeah. Where is your free bus pass?

[Alvin]

Totally agree with you.



Yeah. Where is your free bus pass?

One has to look at the bigger picture,the debate about emmissions is at lunch.

But transporting people short distances by aircraft if highly inefficient .

I think I read that you can travel london to glasgow quicker by train than by air if you include the travel time to airports and the wait to book in.

My question is why is it that successive governments have given preferential treatment to our least cost effective means of transport,whilst at the same time ignoring any help for our road transport industry when 90% of our goods are moved by these means.

In not assisting them the cost of living for all our citizens rises with fuel increases.

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While the whole idea of cutting fuel taxes is opposed by the environment lobby - indeed one of its biggest gripes is the lack of duty and VAT on aircraft fuel.

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The air transport industry is a waste of space and resources.

I never use my bus pass on the grounds that the bleeding buses never come when you want them.

Alvin

[IP2]

My question is why is it that successive governments have given preferential treatment to our least cost effective means of transport,whilst at the same time ignoring any help for our road transport industry when 90% of our goods are moved by these means.

Probably because before this whole carbon footprint thing took hold of the media's attention the car was seen as the evil mode of transport, regardless of any facts.

[Peter W]

A problem with taxing air fuel is that the planes will just fill up in another country. It has to be done on a Europe-wide basis, at least.

[boxby]

What about them cows!
They contribute a lot of global emmissions!!

[Alvin]

What about them cows!
They contribute a lot of global emmissions!!

I don't let her out of the Kitchen.:sad1:

Alvin