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Old 09-04-2008, 21:33
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I was told by someone that works for Dell that he would never buy a computer from them... that's a bit of a worry, especially as I just did.
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I was told by someone that works for Dell that he would never buy a computer from them... that's a bit of a worry, especially as I just did.
Take it back, quick !!
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To be fair Dell have gone from strength to strength in the market place but with any business they can there weak points, We as a company found that only too recently when there cocked up a delivery for a client and we were left looking bad ,
There machines though can be rock solid with the latest technology and designs that benefit airflow and workflow, this you cant really fault them for that.
The benefit of our bespoke systems though is that get exactley what you asked for with future upgradiblity in mind and using all branded components that work in harmony with each other for usually less than having a Dell badge on them.
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Plenty of for's and against's on this one. We've been using Dell Poweredge servers in our schools for just over 18 months now and haven't had a single problem with them, absolutely nothing. Which is always strange for a server
Their desktops however, meh, give or take to be honest. I prefer a solution tailored to specific needs,
"I need a home theatre system" - WinTV/Remote/ Wireless keyboard / projector etc
"I need a gaming PC" - Big bulky graphics card, plenty of ram and a fast HDD

Those are just some examples, but users rarely realise how much things can be changed in that little box of components, that's why people like myself and CP Ltd are in business. To help you guys make decisions with the knowledge we can offer.

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In my last place of work in emergency service, throughout the force there were upto 10,000 Dell machines each running no less than 2 dell monitors each.

Every day we had log-in problems due to the Dell network servers creaking at its kness.
But then again at the start of each shift there could be upto 3000 people logging on at the same time which ever division they were based.


The techies also said they would never buy a Dell for home use. Now these guys are in the know so that holds some weight.

The only reason the force bought all those Dell's was coz someone high up with no comp knowledge went for the cheapest option. Doh.
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Valid point saracen,

Dell have great case designs ect but as with anything mass produced for volume sales there is going to be problems thats why I prefer to hand build machines step by step and not rushed and thoroughly tested.
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I'm not one to stick up for a company like Dell but the problem they were having in the emergency services doesn't sound like an actual Server problem, more the fact that someone who designed the Server/Network infrastructure didn't make the right choices in setting up the fat/thin client properly. With most public services you end up logging on as a certain user and then the information regarding your security settings is sent to your desktop allowing certain features, it isn't the desktop sitting there providing the information for your login but the server-side and all the routing and switching in between. 3000 people logging on at any one time on a 100mbps network is going to grind it all down to a pulp in any scenario. I'm afraid it's the project managers fault as you say, not for buying Dell, but putting in such a frail network.

Just to add a bit more pathos, I was speaking to a friend of mine who was in the RAF, it takes them 7 years to properly upgrade any of their equipment, through security alone. The RAF still run ancient equipment but it works properly, and quickly, because they have set it up so well.

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I've got to stick my oar in on this one too.

I have been selling Dell servers and PC's to businesses for 4 years now with so little problems I myself am amazed. Probably because the machines I sell are the better range of Dell like the poweredge servers and optiplex PCs.

Fuzzy asked me a while ago to recommend a PC to her and to be fair I was looking at building one instead of going Dell because it was for gaming but I honestly didn't have the time to source all the parts required and test they are suited to each other like Simon and others do, plus the graphics card I wanted to put in wasn't available so I quoted a Dell instead half heartedly. I think she has made the right choice in getting a custom built one for gaming, had it been for business I think Dell Optiplex are much better than custom built ones.

each type has its use, for me its always Dell or HP for business use

custom built for home/gaming

you'll find any larger IT company thinks along the same lines I do, they resell Dell, HP and other major manufacturers rather than build them themselves.

upgrades, well yes Dell ram does fit in Dell servers but to be fair it is so cheap nowadays that really buy enough in any PC or server so you don't need to upgrade.

Once you buy a PC how often do you want to upgrade?
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IMHO Dell has a deserved place in the marketplace depending on your requirements. As long as you can live with the fact that everything inside your unit will be replaced or repaired with Dell parts only then that is OK.

For me, HP rules, always have, always will.

As for replacing your machine, why not max out the memory and clean out unused programs followed by a period of defrag and condensing via the clean up tools.

This often gives your PC a timely boost and improves performance noticably.

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Fuzzy asked me a while ago to recommend a PC to her and to be fair I was looking at building one instead of going Dell because it was for gaming but I honestly didn't have the time to source all the parts required and test they are suited to each other like Simon and others do, plus the graphics card I wanted to put in wasn't available so I quoted a Dell instead half heartedly. I think she has made the right choice in getting a custom built one for gaming, had it been for business I think Dell Optiplex are much better than custom built ones.
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