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12-04-2008, 18:07
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After some html help
Hi all,
Is there any kind chap or chapess who would be willing to improve my freecycle yahoo group front page.  I only have a max 2000 characters to play with and it all just looks a bit yuck especially the colours. A nice spruce up would be fantastic. Have a look and see what I mean: www.oldhamfreecycle.org.uk Sarah        
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13-04-2008, 10:28
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This is a copywriters perspective.
You are far too long on terms and conditions Far too short on benefits and reasons why So get all the detail as hyperlinks - see this, but you will have to substitute with actual URLS for the information. Also I dont know how the styles are controled on yahoo..so Highlight the titles in this.... <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" ><tr> <td width=300> <p><strong>IN OLDHAM? - THEN STOP !</strong><br /> DONT Throw that out. <br /> Somebody ELSE can use it!:</p> <p>1/ YOU can help them <br /> - They WANT what you have.</p> <p>2/ HELP YOURSELF<br /> - Save money - on things that you need! </p> <p>3/ MOST IMPORTANT you help the planet - -There just isnt room for any more rubbish! </p> <p>So help keep good things out of landfills! </p> <p> </p></td> <td width=432> <img src="http://f9g.yahoofs.com/groups/g_1817...A6pAIBMQv1pUoO" width="432" height="266" class="desc-pic" alt=""></td> </tr> <tr> <td width=300><p><strong>JOIN OLDHAM FREECYCLE NOW:</strong></p> <p>1/ Sign up on <a href="www.freecycle.org/org">Free Cycle List</a> </p> <p>2/ Just check out the FAQ</p> <p>3/ Post what you have - include a postcode</p> <p>4/ Look for good things you would like!</p> <p>5/ Go to <a href="www.freecycle.org/cafe">Free Cycle Cafe</a> and chat </p> </td> <td width=432><p><strong>HELP YOURSELF THE PLANET AND OTHERS</strong>:</p> <p>Please REMEMBER!</p> <p>We are a not for profit organisation </p> <p>Be careful to protect your identity - see our <a href="www.freecycle.org/advice">Advice guide</a> here...</p> <p> Dont list before you understand our <a href="www.freecycle.org/terms">Terms and Conditions </a></p> <p>And <a href="www.freecycle.org/terms">Contact Me </a>...if you would like to suggest improevents </p> </td> </tr> <tr><td align="right"><br /> Copyright <a href="www.freecycle.org/inc">Free cycle Inc</a> 2003-2008</td> <td align="right"><br /> A Registered <a href="www.freecycle.org/charity">Charity</a> Limited By guarantee</td> </tr> </table> If you want to see what it looks like, just save this in a file, and display in your browser.. <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd"> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"> <head> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" /> <title>Untitled Document</title> <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="http://us.js2.yimg.com/us.js.yimg.co...0704120000.css"> <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="http://us.js2.yimg.com/us.js.yimg.co...Green_1_11.css"> <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="http://us.js2.yimg.com/us.js.yimg.co...0506210000.css"> <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="http://us.js2.yimg.com/us.js.yimg.co...0606180000.css"> </head> <body> <table cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" ><tr> <td width=300> <p><strong>IN OLDHAM? - THEN STOP !</strong><br /> DONT Throw that out. <br /> Somebody ELSE can use it!:</p> <p>1/ YOU can help them <br /> - They WANT what you have.</p> <p>2/ HELP YOURSELF<br /> - Save money - on things that you need! </p> <p>3/ MOST IMPORTANT you help the planet - -There just isnt room for any more rubbish! </p> <p>So help keep good things out of landfills! </p> <p> </p></td> <td width=432> <img src="http://f9g.yahoofs.com/groups/g_1817...A6pAIBMQv1pUoO" width="432" height="266" class="desc-pic" alt=""></td> </tr> <tr> <td width=300><p><strong>JOIN OLDHAM FREECYCLE NOW:</strong></p> <p>1/ Sign up on <a href="www.freecycle.org/org">Free Cycle List</a> </p> <p>2/ Just check out the FAQ</p> <p>3/ Post what you have - include a postcode</p> <p>4/ Look for good things you would like!</p> <p>5/ Go to <a href="www.freecycle.org/cafe">Free Cycle Cafe</a> and chat </p> </td> <td width=432><p><strong>HELP YOURSELF THE PLANET AND OTHERS</strong>:</p> <p>Please REMEMBER!</p> <p>We are a not for profit organisation </p> <p>Be careful to protect your identity - see our <a href="www.freecycle.org/advice">Advice guide</a> here...</p> <p> Dont list before you understand our <a href="www.freecycle.org/terms">Terms and Conditions </a></p> <p>And <a href="www.freecycle.org/terms">Contact Me </a>...if you would like to suggest improevents </p> </td> </tr> <tr><td align="right"><br /> Copyright <a href="www.freecycle.org/inc">Free cycle Inc</a> 2003-2008</td> <td align="right"><br /> A Registered <a href="www.freecycle.org/charity">Charity</a> Limited By guarantee</td> </tr> </table> </body> </html> What I am saying is concentrate on the message not the presentation
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13-04-2008, 11:29
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Thanks for that!!!
 It was 362 characters too long (yahoo only let you have a maximum 2000 so it is difficult to try and fit everything in). So I took out some of the sentences but then I put it in and it all kind of went to one side and looked odd but that might have been taking out some paragraphs. This is the original: <P>The Oldham Freecycle® group is open to all those who want to re-home unwanted items rather than throw them away or maybe you are in need of something yourself? <P>This group is part of The Freecycle Network, a non-profit organisation and a movement of people interested in keeping good stuff out of landfills. Check out <A HREF="http://freecycle.org" TITLE="Freecycle">freecycle.org</A> for more information. <P>Please go to <A HREF="http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OldhamFreecycleCafe/" TITLE="Oldham Freecycle Café">Oldham Freecycle Café</A> for advice/general discussions/chat <P><MARQUEE><FONT COLOR="#339966" SIZE="4">......FAQ are in the database or email the <A HREF="mailto  ldhamfreecycle-owner@yahoogroups.com">Moderators</A> for questions or improvement ideas! And have fun and jump right in!......</FONT></MARQUEE><P><FONT COLOR="blue"><B>PLEASE REMEMBER TO INCLUDE YOUR PARTIAL POSTCODE AND GENERAL LOCATION IN THE SUBJECT LINE OF ALL MESSAGES SENT TO THE SITE.</B></FONT> <center><table border='1' cellspacing='0' cellpadding='6px'> <tr><th colspan='1' bgcolor='#e9ffcc' align='center'><center> DISCLAIMER: FREECYCLE® NETWORK MEMBERS USE THE LIST AT THEIR OWN RISK. Please take reasonable measures to protect your safety and privacy when posting to the list or participating in an exchange. By joining the list, you agree to hold neither the list owners and moderators nor anyone affiliated with Freecycle.org responsible or liable for any circumstance resulting from a Freecycle-related exchange or communication.</center> </table></center><p> <P><FONT FACE="Comic Sans MS" SIZE="1">Copyright </FONT><FONT SIZE="1">© </FONT><FONT FACE="Comic Sans MS" SIZE="1">2003-2008 The Freecycle Network (http://www.Freecycle.org). All rights reserved. Freecycle and the Freecycle logo are registered trademarks of The Freecycle Network, Inc. CMT Reg. No. 428755. Freecycle UK is a registered charity (No.1118148) and is a Company Limited by Guarantee (No.05945013) Last edited by ParentsforPlay; 13-04-2008 at 11:31. Reason: tried to get rid of blush smilie but couldn't , so don't know why it's there!
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14-04-2008, 17:37
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Sarah,
If I get a spare moment, I will take a look and tidy up some of the code to make it shorter. Tom
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14-04-2008, 17:41
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Thank you!!
 Sarah
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16-04-2008, 19:17
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Hi sarah,
just quickly did you add all the <p> and font tags yourself? Tom
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17-04-2008, 08:51
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No someone did them for me a couple of years ago.
Sarah
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