Is it really that easy?

meader83 · #11 (**permalink**) 05-06-2008, 14:24

Thansk for your feedback. Guess thats why your SEO experts and i'm not

Plenty of work to be done it seems. Only learn from your mistakes eh.

awebapart · #12 (**permalink**) 05-06-2008, 14:25

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Originally Posted by PremierPDS

Hmmm, it not showing any of mine??? Can you think of any reason why this might be?

That's probably because your site is structured under premier... rather than www . premier ...

This site: www command returns none, whereas this site: premierpds.co.uk command does work.

PremierPDS · #13 (**permalink**) 05-06-2008, 14:27

is that important for SEO? What's the difference?

awebapart · #14 (**permalink**) 05-06-2008, 14:48

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Originally Posted by PremierPDS

is that important for SEO? What's the difference?

A permanent 301 redirect of a www . domainname to a http:// domainname should be OK. Whether there is any SEO avantage of removing the www is debatable, negligible if any IMO.

You have a couple of issues with your site:

1. The redirect is not a permanent 301 redirect, but a temporary 302 redirect so this might cause some SEO issues if you have inbound links to www. see 302 redirects and SEO and 302 redirect for more information

To check what HTTP redirects are in place you can use this online tool:

http://news.stepforth.com/seo-tools/...er-checker.php

2. The redirect isn't just from a www . domainname to a domainname but to a domainname/extraurl as the home page. Personally I'm not that keen on home pages with extra URL information after the domain name, and it might have some affect on SEO too. It doesn't matter so much for this forum, since:

a. there is a permanent 301 redirect in place

b. the redirect url has /forum appended, one of the main keywords out of "business forums" this website is targeting, and the other two words are in the domain name anyway

PremierPDS · #15 (**permalink**) 05-06-2008, 15:04

Thanks Paul, I'm on my way out now but I'll have a proper look at things later. I'm in the process of having my site rebuilt with a whole new domain name and the site you're looking at now will have a permantent 301 redirect on it to the new one eventually. The site I have now which you're looking at was my first attempt to build something myself with Microsoft Office Live- it's just a basic free account so I guess this has something to do with why the redirect is temporary? Yep, the domain name ends in aspx (whatever that is)??? I've been told this is bad for SEO before but nobody seems to be able to tell me why. I had no choice in this though and it seems to be something to do with office live and the file types it uses??? As you have probably guessed I'm a complete novice at this stuff but I'm making a start on attempting to get my head around it all...

awebapart · #16 (**permalink**) 05-06-2008, 15:20

I think you've done a good job with the limited tools you have had at hand, i.e. the Office Live sitebuilder, you've certainly used it in anger more than most Office Live website owners, especially in the Products section (which couldn't have been easy).

Whether .aspx, or .htm, or .html at the end of a url has any affect on SEO is another thing that is debatable, negligible at most. Some people say that it shouldn't matter since google will ignore common file extensions in the url, others might say that google might not ignore it completely in all cases and there might be some adverse affect since an end url like /businesscards is 100% focused on "business cards" whereas an end url like /businesscards.aspx is diluted in that business cards take up, as a simplified example, say 72% of the end url (e.g. 13 out of 18 of the characters). There is also the other issue of nesting further pages further down a directory structure in the future, e.g. changing the one page /businesscards into a section with pages underneath it like /businesscards/roundedbusinesscards which is easier when file extensions are not used in urls (but that is usually more a static HTML website thing).

PremierPDS · #17 (**permalink**) 05-06-2008, 15:32

Thanks again Paul, all this helps me to understand things a bit better and boy do I need to lol! The new site obviously isn't being built in Office Live, it'll be built in Joomla and will hopefully have 'normal' URL's and following the advice of the other SEO'ers here I'll separate the words with a dash as opposed to them all being lumped together as they are now. Does Joomla add anything onto the end of the URL's? I'm guessing it does as it uses PHP files...If the above is true then this probably won't make a difference anyway, just another question from billion I have stored away in the deep recesses of my tiny mind

awebapart · #18 (**permalink**) 05-06-2008, 15:39

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Originally Posted by PremierPDS

Does Joomla add anything onto the end of the URL's? I'm guessing it does as it uses PHP files

In its default state yes, but Joomla can be configured with add-ins and hosting configurations to provide more simple URLs. You should speak to your Joomla website supplier about this.

PremierPDS · #19 (**permalink**) 05-06-2008, 15:47

I'm on my way out to see him now as it happens Paul so I'll speak to him about this. I think someone else said something about this to me a while ago about Joomla needing the coding cleaning up to make it truly SEO friendly...I'll probably post back here later or maybe in my own thread, 'Nickie's quest to be the only female SEO expert lol', as I appear to have hijacked this one yet again