[dragonfly]

Are there any online duplicate page analysis tools. i.e. if I give it tool pages, give me a likelyhood of google complaining?

[OldWelshGuy]

DF it doesn't work like that unfortunately.

Not sure what you mean by 'Google complaining'. For google to take remedial action against a site, it has to consider the dupliate content deliberate. That aid, they ARE running close to the wind if they are creating hundreds of near identical pages to google. Are the pages nocached nofollowed by and chance?

Copyscape will give you the information about duplicate content.

[Dymo King]

Originally Posted by OldWelshGuy

I would like to state here that I do NOT practice commercial black hat, I only use it against/on my own test sites which are non commercial, and for educational purposes only. I often come up against black hat, and I would be screwed if I didn't understand it

Are there any pointers to tell if you are the 'victim' of black hat by competitors?

[Alvin]

Originally Posted by OldWelshGuy

I would like to state here that I do NOT practice commercial black hat, I only use it against/on my own test sites which are non commercial, and for educational purposes only. I often come up against black hat, and I would be screwed if I didn't understand it

Yeah,yeah,yeah and I just saw a pink elephant fly past my window playing "swanee" on a banjo.

Alvin

[OldWelshGuy]

Originally Posted by Dymo King

Are there any pointers to tell if you are the 'victim' of black hat by competitors?

Unexplained drops in traffic for search terms, unusual amount of traffic, traffic for unrelated terms. large sppikes in bandwidth, any of these 'could' be pointers, but a sudden cange to raffic patterns (downwards) with a drop in rankings 'could' be a n indicator.

Why do you ask?

[Dymo King]

Originally Posted by OldWelshGuy

Why do you ask?

It's just that you said "I often come up against black hat" so I was wondering how widespread it was, and also if you often come up against it then it implies that there must be something recognisable that allows you to see it when it's happening - so just thought it would be something useful to share. We have other sites in some quite competitive markets so if there were signs we could look out for it would be really useful (especialy as one site dropped 2 PR in the last rejig and seems to be a bit quieter than usual in the last few weeks...)

[OldWelshGuy]

Originally Posted by Dymo King

It's just that you said "I often come up against black hat" so I was wondering how widespread it was, and also if you often come up against it then it implies that there must be something recognisable that allows you to see it when it's happening - so just thought it would be something useful to share. We have other sites in some quite competitive markets so if there were signs we could look out for it would be really useful (especialy as one site dropped 2 PR in the last rejig and seems to be a bit quieter than usual in the last few weeks...)

The PR currently showing was reportedly around 9 weeks prior to export, so if the two items bolded were to be related, then they should match around that time.

The drop in PR is probably down to the knock on effect of Google stopping a lot of sites from passing PR, while the quite in the last few weeks could be down to school holidays etc.

[Dymo King]

yeah, that's probably the case. But how do you tell the difference between someone trying to mess with your site and google changing their alogorythms?

[OldWelshGuy]

Originally Posted by Dymo King

yeah, that's probably the case. But how do you tell the difference between someone trying to mess with your site and google changing their alogorythms?

That is what Phorensic SEO is all about !


A heck of a lot of work I do an have done has been phorensic SEo, where you are presented with a problem, and it is my job to find out what that problem is. There really isn't any short cut, it is all about experience,. and looking at the little details, looking at stats, checking caches, spider patterns i.e. noticing when spiders stopped coming and pinpointing a date etc.

Just damned hard boring as hel;l mind numbing investigative work