Business Advice and Help Forum for Businesses or Starting a Company in the UK - A1 Business Forums
corner image corner image
Member Box




corner image corner image
Our Advertisers

corner image corner image
Register FAQ Members List Today's Posts Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
A1 Business Blog Home
corner image corner image
A1businessforums.co.uk - The UK's Friendliest Online Business Community
Go Back   Business Forum UK - Advice Help and Questions - A1 Forums > Internet Marketing - For Online Marketing and Sales > SEO Advice and Help for Search Engine Optimisation
Reload this Page

Help! my seo buddies please...

SEO Help and Advice Forum for your Search Engine Optimisation questions. SEO Made Simple

Reply
Page 1 of 3 1 23 >
corner image corner image
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes

corner image corner image
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 09-08-2008, 19:49
admagic's Avatar
admagic admagic is offline
I Live on A1!
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 806
Thanks: 119
Thanked 454 Times in 261 Posts
Default Help! my seo buddies please...

Questions..

(a) How important is UK hosting -ie UK IP address for UK rankings, or is the .co.uk enough?

(b) I am just launching another project (well 3, actually)....in two cases I want similar content and offers for us and uk sites, but different to the extent that some products I cant source in the US ( so have some different offers) and I want to use a different drop shipper. So it makes sense to have separate sites for .co and .com ( have both domains), and to tell the robots, only to index the uk site for google uk, and the com for the us market.

What is the conventional way to avoid the duplicate content penalty or to steer the robots in this situation????

Help appreciated

Last edited by admagic; 09-08-2008 at 20:00.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Share on FacebookStumble this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!
Reply With Quote
corner image corner image
Sponsored Links

Register to remove these ads
admagic
View Public Profile
Send a private message to admagic
Find all posts by admagic
corner image corner image
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 10-08-2008, 00:01
An Oasis An Oasis is offline
A1 is my Second Home!
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 257
Thanks: 13
Thanked 52 Times in 46 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by admagic View Post
What is the conventional way to avoid the duplicate content penalty or to steer the robots in this situation????
Hosting on different class C blocks will avoid dup content. Don't need to worry about the B's.
__________________
Hire Topiary : Hire Olive Plants : Hire Artificial Grass : Safety Scene - making learning about safety fun for children
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Share on FacebookStumble this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!
Reply With Quote
corner image corner image
The Following User Says Thank You to An Oasis For This Useful Post:
admagic (10-08-2008)
An Oasis
View Public Profile
Send a private message to An Oasis
Visit An Oasis's homepage!
Find all posts by An Oasis
corner image corner image
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 10-08-2008, 17:16
OldWelshGuy's Avatar
OldWelshGuy OldWelshGuy is offline
I Live on A1!
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 637
Thanks: 32
Thanked 176 Times in 126 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by admagic View Post
Questions..

(a) How important is UK hosting -ie UK IP address for UK rankings, or is the .co.uk enough?

(b) I am just launching another project (well 3, actually)....in two cases I want similar content and offers for us and uk sites, but different to the extent that some products I cant source in the US ( so have some different offers) and I want to use a different drop shipper. So it makes sense to have separate sites for .co and .com ( have both domains), and to tell the robots, only to index the uk site for google uk, and the com for the us market.

What is the conventional way to avoid the duplicate content penalty or to steer the robots in this situation????

Help appreciated
Doesn't work like that unfortunately. All of google.co.uk data is part of the global google datbase. It is geo served not geo stored. IE one database.

Google will filter out the least important page, so people searching from the US will get the US orientated pages, and vice versa. Provided of course you have US links to your US content and UK links to your UK content

Added: I said 'will filter... I really should have posted 'should filter... nothing is for sure with Google.
__________________
Internet Marketing Consultancy My SEO website- Google expert my blog
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Share on FacebookStumble this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!
Reply With Quote
OldWelshGuy
View Public Profile
Send a private message to OldWelshGuy
Find all posts by OldWelshGuy
corner image corner image
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 10-08-2008, 18:59
Alvin's Avatar
Alvin Alvin is offline
I'm an A1 VIP!
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Kent
Posts: 3,298
Thanks: 572
Thanked 610 Times in 464 Posts
"What is the conventional way to avoid the duplicate content penalty or to steer the robots in this situation????"

Convention would be to rewrite the pages so they are no more that about 70% similar.

It is said that a page has to be 80% similar to be considered duplicate but I personally don't trust that figure.

easily done by just rearranging the order the text is displayed on the page.

If your going for the US market would help to have the hosting site in the states for the .com

Alvin
__________________
Dolls houses - Jet skis -Quad Bikes - Solar Power - Volkswagen Parts - Internet Marketing - Web Design - Vehicle wrapping - Cam Belt Fitting - Sea Trips - Printing - Mobility Scooters - Firefighter guides - Property World Wide -Boat Insurance-Insulation
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Share on FacebookStumble this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!
Reply With Quote
Alvin
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Alvin
Find all posts by Alvin
corner image corner image
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 10-08-2008, 21:41
OldWelshGuy's Avatar
OldWelshGuy OldWelshGuy is offline
I Live on A1!
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 637
Thanks: 32
Thanked 176 Times in 126 Posts
I have been told first hand that google looks for sentences or blocks of text.
__________________
Internet Marketing Consultancy My SEO website- Google expert my blog
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Share on FacebookStumble this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!
Reply With Quote
OldWelshGuy
View Public Profile
Send a private message to OldWelshGuy
Find all posts by OldWelshGuy
corner image corner image
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 10-08-2008, 22:53
James James is offline
A1 Business Forum Regular
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 97
Thanks: 2
Thanked 10 Times in 9 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by admagic View Post
Questions..

(a) How important is UK hosting -ie UK IP address for UK rankings, or is the .co.uk enough?
.co.uk is more than enough.

James.
__________________
MYBF < My Business Forum
Buy your Town < UK Advertising opportunity
Free Advertising < Free ads for UK businesses
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Share on FacebookStumble this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!
Reply With Quote
James
View Public Profile
Send a private message to James
Find all posts by James
corner image corner image
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 10-08-2008, 23:29
Alvin's Avatar
Alvin Alvin is offline
I'm an A1 VIP!
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Kent
Posts: 3,298
Thanks: 572
Thanked 610 Times in 464 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by OldWelshGuy View Post
I have been told first hand that google looks for sentences or blocks of text.

I doubt if it looks at sentences or might have a problem with.

"the quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog"

but may look at large blocks of text ,but possibly ones that contain several hundred words,and maybe pays more attention to text that contains repeated important keywords.


But I am guessing as not sure Google is that smart or interested.

Alvin
__________________
Dolls houses - Jet skis -Quad Bikes - Solar Power - Volkswagen Parts - Internet Marketing - Web Design - Vehicle wrapping - Cam Belt Fitting - Sea Trips - Printing - Mobility Scooters - Firefighter guides - Property World Wide -Boat Insurance-Insulation
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Share on FacebookStumble this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!
Reply With Quote
Alvin
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Alvin
Find all posts by Alvin
corner image corner image
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 11-08-2008, 00:32
An Oasis An Oasis is offline
A1 is my Second Home!
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 257
Thanks: 13
Thanked 52 Times in 46 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by OldWelshGuy View Post
...Provided of course you have US links to your US content and UK links to your UK content
An easy mistake to make and would obviously flag up a site if the % of links got skewed.
__________________
Hire Topiary : Hire Olive Plants : Hire Artificial Grass : Safety Scene - making learning about safety fun for children
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Share on FacebookStumble this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!
Reply With Quote
An Oasis
View Public Profile
Send a private message to An Oasis
Visit An Oasis's homepage!
Find all posts by An Oasis
corner image corner image
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 11-08-2008, 00:39
An Oasis An Oasis is offline
A1 is my Second Home!
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 257
Thanks: 13
Thanked 52 Times in 46 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alvin View Post
Convention would be to rewrite the pages so they are no more that about 70% similar....easily done by just rearranging the order the text is displayed on the page....
Rewrite and restructure the content. I assume that there is software that will do this but have yet to find anything that is worth using. So far it seems to be quicker to do it be hand using a WP or database to do global replacing.
__________________
Hire Topiary : Hire Olive Plants : Hire Artificial Grass : Safety Scene - making learning about safety fun for children
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Share on FacebookStumble this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!
Reply With Quote
An Oasis
View Public Profile
Send a private message to An Oasis
Visit An Oasis's homepage!
Find all posts by An Oasis
corner image corner image
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 11-08-2008, 09:36
Alvin's Avatar
Alvin Alvin is offline
I'm an A1 VIP!
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Kent
Posts: 3,298
Thanks: 572
Thanked 610 Times in 464 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by An Oasis View Post
Rewrite and restructure the content. I assume that there is software that will do this but have yet to find anything that is worth using. So far it seems to be quicker to do it be hand using a WP or database to do global replacing.

Yes sad to say that physical movement is sometimes needed in our brave new world.

But if you get tired try using your left hand.

Alvin
__________________
Dolls houses - Jet skis -Quad Bikes - Solar Power - Volkswagen Parts - Internet Marketing - Web Design - Vehicle wrapping - Cam Belt Fitting - Sea Trips - Printing - Mobility Scooters - Firefighter guides - Property World Wide -Boat Insurance-Insulation
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!Share on FacebookStumble this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!
Reply With Quote
Alvin
View Public Profile
Send a private message to Alvin
Find all posts by Alvin
Reply
Page 1 of 3 1 23 >

« Renaming folders - Is there any benefit? | .co.uk »

corner image corner image
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode
Hybrid Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode
Threaded Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

corner image corner image
Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are On


All times are GMT. The time now is 05:30.


Calendar - Contact Us - A1 Business Forum UK - Archive - Top

© A1 Business Forums 2008

A1 Business Forums is a brand of Pixel Mind Ltd, a company registered in England and Wales with company number 06693709

Pixelcraze
Forum theme a Pixelcraze Creation





LinkBack
LinkBack URL LinkBack URL
About LinkBacks About LinkBacks
Bookmark & Share
Digg this Thread! Digg this Thread!
Add Thread to del.icio.us Add Thread to del.icio.us
Bookmark in Technorati Bookmark in Technorati
Furl this Thread! Furl this Thread!
Share on Facebook Share on Facebook
Stumble this Thread Stumble this Thread
Google Bookmark this Thread Google Bookmark this Thread